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Offline KenB

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Some folks pointed out that towing my ~6000lb seacraft/trailer every day was going to blow up my 1/2 ton transmission, even though it's rated for 10K. In other words, a 1/2 ton truck is more than enough to tow on the weekends but if you tow every day, the trans won't survive more than a few seasons.

So... I looked up F250s and 2500s. Around here (MA) in post-covid 2022, a used truck (5 years, 100k miles) starts around $50k. My budget was $25k, which gets me 15-20 years old, 200K+ miles. But then I started seeing Nissan Titan XD's show up in my searches. The "XD" is bigger than the regular 1/2 ton Titan, but its not a full 3/4 ton. It's the same frame as the Nissan SV panel van (hence strange size). Designed for towing. Comes in a cummins diesel. And the diesels are cheaper than v8 gas!  $25k was good for a 5 year old titan XD with 4x4, tow package, and 50-80k miles. So I spent a few weeks scouring the interwebs (cars.com, carvana, carguru, and good ole craigslist) and ended up with the cheapest CPO gas Titan XD is the lower 48, which means I have a full 7 year/100k warranty for about the price of a used tacoma.

Why gas? And why is the titan XD the only truck where the diesel is cheaper than gas? A Nissan service tech explained that while the cummins has had bad press, the real issue is the transmission, which is also not made by Nissan. Compare that to the gas v8 power train, which is in millions of vehicles, has been around for 10-15 years, and is made by nissan. Anyway, Im happy. Good truck, great price. For sure it's heavier than my 1/2 ton and tows better, but it also does not ride like an F250 dump truck. I wanted a diesel 3/4 ton tundra (not a thing), so this is a close second. 10.5 mpg towing, 15mpg otherwise.
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KenB

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Re: Nissan Titan XD and the 'hole' in the 3/4 ton tow market...
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2022, 09:35:47 AM »
I'm very happy with the truck; I can recommend buying a used Nissan Titan XD, CPO (certified pre owned), from a reputable Nissan dealer.
- Brakes squeaked. Dealer installed a brake kit, no charge. Did an alignment after, which fixed the highway speed vibrations that showed up after the brake kit.
- Kelly bluebook value has gone up in the 3 months since I bought it. WTF, strange year.
- Mercury marine website has a Nissan Titan XD on it! (photo below)... so in addition to selling rebranded tohatsu cheaper than tohatsu (e.g.  below 25 hp merc are all tohatsus), Merc now has my truck on their front page.
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KenB

"HOW CHEAPLY CAN A TOLMAN SKIFF BE BUILT AND JUST HOW  MUCH IS SACRIFICED IF COST IS THE PRIME MOVER?"
- Bruce Armstrong   

"I can tell you that either a nice BFT or a big YFT is an absolute riot on a Tolman. The boat is so light it's like the old man and the sea..."
- Dave Nolan (RIP)

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Re: Nissan Titan XD and the 'hole' in the 3/4 ton tow market...
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2022, 06:29:22 AM »
Pretty good review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-41mZg0bwM
Because I can't help myself with the nitpicking...
- Nissan transmission issues came from them trying to cram the same CVT into everything. No issues with nissan truck trans.
- He likes the toyota (AISEN) trans but because its not a OEM nissan trans, dealers are wary of servicing it... this is not an issue on the gas v8 trans.
- looking at fuelly.com, diesel mpgs seem closer to 17 than 20.
- It was neat to see someone else come to the same conclusions I did... XD is a good truck.

I feel like this guy would be a fan of Tolman skiffs, would tell everyone they are overbuilding and overpowering their skiffs, and be a tohatsu guy.
« Last Edit: November 09, 2022, 06:36:58 AM by KenB »
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KenB

"HOW CHEAPLY CAN A TOLMAN SKIFF BE BUILT AND JUST HOW  MUCH IS SACRIFICED IF COST IS THE PRIME MOVER?"
- Bruce Armstrong   

"I can tell you that either a nice BFT or a big YFT is an absolute riot on a Tolman. The boat is so light it's like the old man and the sea..."
- Dave Nolan (RIP)