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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hello From NW Washington
« Last post by wildscottishblum on May 17, 2023, 08:46:06 PM »
Welcome aboard. I am two exits out of Luk Diver in Woodland and am building a Jumbo 24.
Flipped and am working on the interior and superstructure.
Happy to give a tour of the shop. PM me if you are going to be down this way, exit 22 off I5.
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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hello From NW Washington
« Last post by WhiteH2O on May 17, 2023, 04:08:53 PM »
A little late to the party, but I plan on starting a 23' (ish) widebody near Gig Harbor (near Tacoma) in the near future. I have stringers that I need to lengthen, and I'm planning to start ordering wood, epoxy, and glass soon. I was going to build a Great Alaskan, but I think I'll leave the Inside Passage Alaska trips to the sailboat, and build something for the lake I live on, along with some shorter Salish Sea fishing and camping trips instead.
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Boats For Sale / Re: 24 Jumbo For Sale
« Last post by Paul Vanderberg on May 15, 2023, 07:39:40 AM »
Teak Deck Pics on Jumbo 24 per KenB's request.
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General Discussion Tolman Skiffs / Re: Fairing?
« Last post by tananaBrian on May 15, 2023, 05:58:07 AM »

Each step that you take is an opportunity to correct any imperfections in the previous step.  But obviously, since glassing will undo your fairing to some degree, you don't want to get carried away with fairing at this point.  What I would do, however, is give your glass something smooth to lay on and get a
minor head start on the fairing you'll do later ... fair on either side of the scarf joints if necessary.  Use Quik Fair and a wide sheet rocker's straight trowel, then sand it 'close enough' and proceed with sheathing the hull.
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General Discussion Tolman Skiffs / Re: Fairing?
« Last post by Jaron_Ayres on May 14, 2023, 09:18:55 PM »
Fair super rough stuff before you glass so you don't get air pockets, but actual fairing will happen after you glass.
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General Discussion Tolman Skiffs / Fairing?
« Last post by MattRabasco on May 14, 2023, 06:58:30 PM »
Finally got the sides on!  Looks like a boat now.  Should I fair before or after I glass?  I have a low spot on the port chine, and a few spots where the scarfs are.  I would imagine that I fair before I glass.  Am I correct?
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Boats For Sale / Re: 15' Jallii Flats Skiff (Cape Cod, MA)
« Last post by KenB on May 14, 2023, 10:08:29 AM »
A website would be fun, but I prefer to use this forum! Much better feedback and I don't have anything to sell, yet. I've thought about selling plans, but none of my plans are THAT different from whats out there now. I also thought about setting up a 'to do' list style IOS app, but preloaded with boat building steps for specific boats. So like a punch list, but with measurements, pdfs, photos, etc.  Anyway a fun winter time project. I guess writing apps for IOS is not that bad:
https://www.cephalopod.studio/blog/lessons-from-developing-an-app-on-the-ipad-from-start-to-finish-on-the-app-store

Not sure where you got the idea that LYS and ladybug are somehow different boats... both are flat bottom work skiffs. If you put enough power on anything, even a table, it'll plane. My advice on this stuff is to not "think' but go use boats or at least talk to someone who does. So many boat designers don't actually get on the water that much, which is why I remain so impressed with Renn... if you ever talked to him you knew right away he actually used his boats, a lot.  Anyway, I certainly hope I am wrong about your LYS and you end with a boat you like! My take was that the LYS was about 70% the work of a Tolman standard for about 30% the boat... you still have to scarf, you still have to set up a strong back, still need to paint, etc. What are you planning to do with this boat? If the goal is to eventually sell it, then LYS might be the right choice. The one benefit to building a classic work skiff is no glassfibers/resin, if sensitivity becomes an issue. Just PL cement and latex paint.

Renn writes about  'violent yaw' on page 1 of the book...  basically, the corner or 'chin' between the bowstem and the bottom will dig into a wave (especially big wakes, as you roll over the second wave), slamming the boat into a stop... if you are running the boat from the tiller, the next thing to happen is the outboard swings right or left and can even power/rotate itself off the transom. (ask me how I know... next move is to bear hug the loose outboard). My buddy built a LYS and that boat was horrible for fishing the rips in woods hole, because of how often this happened. It got sold 3 times before someone figured out the difference between the LYS and the williams skiff was that at rest, the williams bow is a few inches clear while the LYS bow was still in the water. So that 3rd guy took out a skill saw and cut the sides from about 4 feet back, up to the bow to match the williams lines (and then installed a new bottom). The violent yaw still happened but much less frequently.

Some follow up on 'LYS Violent Yaw": specifically with the LYS, because it does not have a frame and just uses a 2x4, be sure to pull the sides in, particularly towards the bottom, to get the bow to rise away from the waterline.
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https://www.woodenboat.com/search/site/tolman-skiff  --- whole bunch of Tolman Skiffs.  Ya'll register your Tolmans. :)
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Announcements / Re: Bot attack
« Last post by guldam on May 11, 2023, 09:16:34 AM »
All - we are currently getting hit by a bunch of bots that appear to be coming from a range of IP Addresses.

I will ban and block them.

Steveoh

The bots are from  Huawei International Pte. Ltd. We had about 80 that were scraping the forum at the same time, and slowed things down a bit.

I've banned a range of their IP Addresses and hopefully that has stopped them in their tracks.

Carry on,

Steveoh
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Boats For Sale / Re: 15' Jallii Flats Skiff (Cape Cod, MA)
« Last post by Viking S√łnn on May 11, 2023, 07:10:07 AM »
Maybe you should have a web site......lots of interesting projects that would certainly have a following.

I received your PM and still trying to understand "we had to cut the sides and bowstem down, because the hulls would catch waves and go end over or end around." I don't believe I understand what this means.

I purchased both the Ladybug and LYS plans to make a comparison before building. The Ladybug is a semi-displacement hull design and likely not the best option for me. The LYS is a true planing hull design. Walter did not mention any hook on his drawings or the building guide. I would think the Ladybug design would require transom wedges or trim tabs if a builder wanted the boat to plane better. There is one video that shows a Ladybug with trim tabs and a 70hp outboard. The outboard has been mounted in a well but as you can see from the video it moves a lot of water before it begins to plane, not sure it is even truly planing. I think The Ladybug is a great boat for what it was designed for. The LYS will suit my needs in the near future until I have more time to build another Tolman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOQuTGZlELE

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