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Offline Lane

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23' Jumbo The shallow draft version
« on: April 02, 2013, 10:46:11 PM »
Started lofting panels March 17th. Had stringers cut. Had to waste some time to loft out the 8* deadrise fairbody, but its coming together. Have spent 46 hours in the shop since. Here it is tonight, deck and bunk side backing in place on the inside. Hoping to flip the first part of next week
« Last Edit: April 03, 2013, 03:02:07 PM by Lane »

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Re: 23" Jumbo The shallow draft version
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2013, 03:49:47 AM »
Looking very nice you making good time.
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Re: 23" Jumbo The shallow draft version
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2013, 03:52:15 AM »
Wow.   That is an efficient build and looks nice.

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Re: 23" Jumbo The shallow draft version
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2013, 08:07:08 AM »
Fast work there!  How about some detail on your mods - for an "8 degree deadrise" Jumbo did you cut the stringers to the Standard / Widebody profile, then simply expand the outside form of the Widebody bottom panels to match the Jumbo outline, and retain jumbo shelves and bowstem?

Or something different?

Thanks!

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Re: 23" Jumbo The shallow draft version
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2013, 10:24:20 AM »
Dave, yep pretty much lofted the widebody and jumbo fairbody lines on same bottom panels, after they were scarfed but before they were glued. And then a little rise and run math on the calculator to get new width, And fair in the outside bow curve. I finally threw the book in the corner and just did the math when lofting parts, cause just like any project when changing any one detail it automatically changes three more. I think most of the changes I made will in reality not matter except for the reduced deadrise, tho I'm very curious what the sheer lines will look like when flipped and sides trimmed. I started with the jumbo shelf holders, switched to the wide body holders, looked at the beddo bow layout and said screw it and just made my own, to what looked good to me....upside down. lol  I spent the money for Okoume for the sides and I must say it was worth every penny. the only fairing I had was from the scarf joints on one side.... cause they were the first 2 scarfs  I cut.

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Re: 23' Jumbo The shallow draft version
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2013, 10:08:15 PM »
@ 53 hours now. Hopefully not too much block sanding and will be getting some black on the keel tomorrow night.

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Re: 23' Jumbo The shallow draft version
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2013, 10:19:22 PM »
Way to go Lane-

Looks really good....seven 8 hour days....not bad Amigo!

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Re: 23' Jumbo The shallow draft version
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2013, 04:59:20 PM »
You must fish the flats.
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Re: 23' Jumbo The shallow draft version
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2013, 06:03:32 PM »
Kev, theres no way I could do it in seven days. Epoxy has to dry. LOL It's worked out well that I have 3.5 -4 hours every day. Minimize the sanding. Could probably build 2 boats in almost the same number of days @ 8 hours a day tho.
Fletch, Yep, I'm building it to get on the flats, with big water in between the harbor and there. Not cc but will have a small"survival" cuddy. going to push cuddy bulkhead forward as much as I can and still get 6' of room. I'm hoping to get 10' of open deck to carry our layout boats. It measures out real tight though. We'll see. This one is a hunting boat first fishing second, all of it tidal. By shaving the draft I should be able to save almost 50 miles of running every trip as I can run down a river to get to the gulf Of AK as opposed to leaving from the harbor. We hunt PWS a bunch too, but so do a lot of others, with deeper drafting boats. Hoping to get into a few bays that no one else can get in. If it rides a bit rougher but we have a deck full of ducks, deer, moose or bears, then its worth it.
Also I had stringers cut for a widebody, because I was waffling between the 2. I wanted the bigger boat but not the extra draft, I just combined them to make the hull in wanted. Has a tad more bow flare than a standard Tolman, 15* trans, and a swim step to make rentry easier for either us with waders or dogs retrieving ducks.
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Re: 23' Jumbo The shallow draft version
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2013, 06:07:13 PM »
Not trying to be "that guy" by posting up hours spent, rather just to show it can be done. With average skills and minimizing sanding, and using the materials to ones advantage when they can... that not just a experienced Tolmanite can build fast and go fishing.

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Re: 23' Jumbo The shallow draft version
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2013, 06:11:33 PM »
Build it how you use it one of the BIG BENEFITS of building your own boat!!!! Can you imagine what it would cost to have a factory boat boat built to suite your personal needs!!
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Re: 23' Jumbo The shallow draft version
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2013, 08:53:39 PM »
I can get in some skinny water with my jumbo, tilt the motor up and using a painters extension pole to propel the boat, most times, I come around and let the wind push the boat across the shallows.
I know your going to be impressed with your jumbo, it's a great platform.

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Re: 23' Jumbo The shallow draft version
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2013, 10:02:24 PM »
I like it when someone else has a similar idea I do. kinda reinforcement I'm not the only crazy one

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Re: 23' Jumbo The shallow draft version
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2013, 05:38:14 PM »
From the pix it looks like excellent work!  I just got my rough electrical approved on my garage and I am getting anxious to follow everyone.
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Re: 23' Jumbo The shallow draft version
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2013, 12:55:40 PM »
Well finally back to building boats. Had a bit hold up here. Started while coating the bottom. Was on second coat of graphite, and needed one more for a "flow coat". Was close on the needed epoxy so thought to myself "self, lets run up to the store quik and get couple more gallons, give it one more coat, and this rig will be ready to flip in the morning. I learned to NEVER set gallon jugs of resin on the seat of your pickup even if the store is only 2 min from your shop. And that a gallon of resin will pour out completely in less than a min if it tips over and the cap falls off.
So after discovering the door pocket that was full of resin and passenger side carpet that was saturated with resin.... I got no more done on that boat that day.
That was a fri afternoon. The next morning, all in town woke to 3 ft of new snow. I headed down to the shop to block sand and finish the bottom, and discovered the snow shedding off the roof had caved in the bottoms on my 12x12 shop doors.....uhggg. Fuel is over 5 here, not running the heat like that. 
So after waiting for Ins. co to approve, a ferry ride to and from the city, and installing new r17 doors.....I can get prioritys back in line and get cranking on the skiff.  ;D