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Author Topic: How much does your Tolman weigh?  (Read 2247 times)
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« on: May 06, 2008, 01:30:30 PM »

I took the boat for a spin on the trailer yesterday to see how it felt and it seemed to handle it well enough. No hills though. Of course that was no fuel and a 115 2s. So it is the lightest it will ever be right now. I am taking it back to the scales on Thur morning to see what the boat weghs. The trailer is 1160 lbs.

Anyone care to venture a guess on what it might weigh? I am guessing around 1900 lbs. How much do other Tolmans weigh?
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2008, 05:45:56 PM »

I bet 1200.  If the trailer is 1000, that is.
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2008, 09:45:23 PM »

 Sounds like a good estimate. Fletch
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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2008, 04:03:46 PM »

Hey Bob,

I didn't get to reply to the emails, but that boat is slick! What a spectacular build! And the orange looks fierce.
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2008, 09:47:45 PM »

I've been wondering how much my Jumbo weighs for a long time. Went to the dump last weekend and I asked if I could bring the Jumbo down and get it weighed. They said no problem... so maybe this weekend I'll weigh it finally and see what is what...

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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2008, 10:28:03 PM »

that boat is slick! What a spectacular build! And the orange looks fierce.

Thanks Ken

I can't hardly believe it came out so well. Honestly. Seeing it from 5 or 6  ft away all this time I had no idea how it was gointg to finally look. I can see a multitude of blemishes but overall I am pretty happy with it.
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2008, 06:57:27 AM »

  I think Renn said in the book that a 'light" one would be 1500lbs and that was for a 22 footer. So 1200 for the boat alone would be too light - 1900 is certainly possible. I tried to figure mine out by adding the weights of various components - wood, glue, glass and still underestimated a bit.

  I weighed mine. My trailer, boat and engine combo, 30gallons of fuel, 2 batteries and all equipment ready to go came in at 4270. 4020 on the scales and 250 tongue weight. If you take away the trailer (900), the engine (425), the fuel (200ish) and the batteries (100ish), the boat with some 'gear' comes in at 2645. Totally stripped it would have to be at least 23-2400.

Heck, I have 450lbs of *epoxy* in my boat. The main stringer weighs close to 200.

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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2008, 07:02:53 AM »

I bet 1200.  If the trailer is 1000, that is.

  1200 for a 24' Jumbo is way too light. I would imagine an average one would be much closer to 2000. A heavy one like mine is even more. With the better part of 30 (yes 30) sheets of plywood, 3-400 yds of glass, 45+ gallons of epoxy at about 10lbs per, it adds up fast. In addition, I made several areas a bit heavier than Renn specified (transom, deck, foredeck, etc) My Jumbo without motor, fuel or batteries comes in close to 2500.

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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2008, 10:36:56 AM »

I just got back from the scales. The answer is,  Drum roll please....... The total weight of trailer and boat (with motor) 3564 lbs. The trailer is 1160. The motor is 370. So that leaves the boat, unloaded, no kicker, no fuel at 2034 lbs. So my guess was off by 134 lbs.
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2008, 11:33:42 AM »

Pretty close guess then!

How long is your boat?

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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2008, 12:19:26 PM »

Pretty close guess then! How long is your boat?

It's 24'5" not counting the anchor roller that has not been put on yet.
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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2008, 12:45:34 PM »

Ok, so its about the same as mine which is like 24.7 or 8. (also not counting my anchor pulpit which is ready but not mounted yet)

  So I guess all that thicker plywood and extra glass I used really *did* amount to some significant extra weight. I actually don't mind. I'm still in a weight range where my Jeep tows it just fine and the extra weight doesn't seem to lower the 'on the water' fuel mileage.

  Speaking of towing, interesting but not surprising is that my Jumbo setup weighs just a tad less than the 20' Searay cuddy it replaces and it seems to tow about the same till I get to about 60. Trying to go above 60 and I can feel the extra windage of the Jumbo holding me back - and indeed, while towing at 65mph, my mileage is about 10-12 as opposed to when pulling my Searay  - where I get about 13. But in all fairness, the Jumbo is a MUCH higher and broader boat than my Searay. I think if you *count* the very low and swept back windshield, my Searay would just about come up to the gunnel of the Jumbo.  :^)

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« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2008, 02:13:46 PM »

I just got back from the scales. The answer is,  Drum roll please....... The total weight of trailer and boat (with motor) 3564 lbs. The trailer is 1160. The motor is 370. So that leaves the boat, unloaded, no kicker, no fuel at 2034 lbs. So my guess was off by 134 lbs.

Where did you weigh at?  I am planning on weighing mine this weekend.  I assume the truck scales will weigh it.  Do an initial weigh with truck and then re-weigh just the truck and do a little math.  How did you weigh yours?  KenD
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« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2008, 02:30:07 PM »

Where did you weigh at?   How did you weigh yours?  KenD

I went to the local landfill out here. First I took the trailer to find out what that weight was. Then I took the loaded trailer back. The way we did it was, pull forward until the trucks rear wheels were just off the scale and jacked the tongue up so that it wasn't being supported by the ball hitch. I just subtracted the trailer weight from the gross weight and TaDaa that gave me my Tolman weight.
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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2008, 02:41:45 PM »

I've told perspective builders, AWAG on the weight of my J22 was 2400-2500 lbs., less trailer.  Looks like I was pretty close.

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