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 on: October 20, 2014, 10:48:34 AM 
Started by steveoh - Last post by UP Tolman
Greg Welcome!

Make sure you share pictures. Where are you building in the UP?


I'm building in the Keweenaw peninsula, northernmost part of MI. I am very close to flipping and hope to do so within a couple of weeks. I plan to share my build up to that point once I flip. It's been great so far, I have discovered a new passion.

 on: October 20, 2014, 08:24:08 AM 
Started by pfithian - Last post by pfithian
The problem in these Florida grass/mud flats is that the bottom has almost no density to it.  More chain would not help.  With a generous scope as shown, nearly all of the chain is on the bottom.  I watched the anchor drag while snorkeling, it just keeps pulling a track along the bottom, and the Lewmar claw never rotates properly and digs in.

With the amount of chain I have, the boat has never failed to hold anywhere except in these Florida Keys grass/mud flats.

 on: October 20, 2014, 08:22:06 AM 
Started by Jimbo - Last post by Jimbo
I have a portable fuel tank that will nest amidships under the bait tank. I'd like to run the fuel line under the deck from there to the stern.

How did you run the line - in a conduit, just through holes, or laying wherever it will..? What kind did you use?

 on: October 20, 2014, 08:19:57 AM 
Started by pfithian - Last post by bleu
I run a 16 lb claw with 30' of chain 300' of rode as a minimum. I think amount of chain is one of the most important things in an anchor holding, I wonder if your anchor would have failed with more chain in the grass bottom. 6' IMO is just not enough for a 25' boat. I run more chain for my paddle board.

 on: October 20, 2014, 07:37:11 AM 
Started by pfithian - Last post by pfithian
I can report that the tandem anchor set up worked great to hold the boat during a couple of hard blows on the grass/mud flats in the Florida Keys.  This is a difficult bottom to hold in, as it has almost no density to it.

While anchored off of Key West Bight during a hard blow, we started to drag the 16.5 lb Lewmar claw with 6' of chain.  I then rigged up the 25 lb Navy anchor with 10' of chain, the best results were obtained with the chain wrapped around the crown of the Lewmar.  With this set up, the Lewmar set upright and dug in further, while the Navy anchor dug its flukes in properly.  We used this setup also while anchored in the lagoon off of Ft. Jefferson in the Dry Tortugas, we held all night during a howling wind.

See attached underwater pictures as well as the shot showing rode angle/scope.

I plan on keeping the Navy anchor on board from now on for such situations.

 on: October 19, 2014, 08:41:23 PM 
Started by luk diver - Last post by luk diver
Short answer: No
Long answer: Ran out 50m Sat. and got in 4 hrs. running Greenstick and regular trolling gear (except new trolling spreaders from before shutting down for the night. Drifted thru the night for 3miles and trolled Greenstick/regular meatline lures Sunday for 4hrs. for zip. Saw one jumper (not sure what it was but 3-4' and silver belly? so not likely a tuna but I don't think it was a shark?). Maybe we could have run 90m to the outside hotwater but no guarantee we would have caught fish there either?Overall for 2 day run was 61g and 153miles. Not bad considering we were running 'heavy' with all the tuna tackle/Greenstick/100g fuel/#500 ice and old 100 hp o/b. Atleast I have tuna blood out of my system and we switch back to salmon and the crab opener Nov. 1st. Overall pleased with Greenstick and learned a lot so looking forward to running it next year. B & B

 on: October 18, 2014, 10:18:56 PM 
Started by jim shula - Last post by pfithian
I was thinking about enlarging the pic of him driving Paul's boat, and superimposing the best obit over it.  Something about 2' by 3' I can set up on an easel in the cockpit.

I'd be honored if you did that, use as you wish. I took that from the cuddy while we were about 5 miles offshore on Lake Michigan catching coho salmon.

 on: October 18, 2014, 06:53:25 PM 
Started by BillW - Last post by BillW

 on: October 18, 2014, 06:39:12 PM 
Started by jim shula - Last post by JMB
Jim, hopefully next year, at this time, I will need a small blow boat trailer...for the Haven.  Today I butchered about $200 worth of white oak.  I ordered almost 3 weeks ago.  Picked up Thursday from Fat Andy's. 

Had butchered whoops meant cut out the frames/ribs by 1030.  Hooked up the boiler hose and about attached the threaded coupling to the steam box.  Had the frames attached by 7 pm.  Long day.  Am taking Sunday off and give my back a rest.

Have a safe week.


 on: October 18, 2014, 06:18:57 PM 
Started by jim shula - Last post by JMB
RSVP thanks for the invite.  We will see you at the show.  Missed you...
Well the boat anyways.  Now, you and Ellen have a Cadillac boat.

Wish I had waited and bought a bigger boat kit from you.  But then again...after the Haven 12 1/2 I will be free free.....well during this build I sure feel O L D E R!

Have a safe week everyone whether on the water....or building.


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