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 91 
 on: July 16, 2014, 10:04:51 AM 
Started by Tebubaga - Last post by penguin
130 miles offshore is way out there. I'm planning on trying 50 or 60 to go after tuna once I build my boat, but even then most guys out here go in groups just in case of problems like that.

 92 
 on: July 16, 2014, 09:45:13 AM 
Started by Kiwi Jon - Last post by Dave Wright
I am building a 21ft Widebody with basic center consul, would I get away with a 70HP Outboard or would a 90 be more sensible.
Your views please guys.

Kind regards

Jon
Dave wright had no issues w an 18 standard and a 40 hp


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Go with the 90 HP, particularly if it weighs about the same as the 70 HP.

In this day people want horsepower, it's just the way it is. Engines have gotten larger and larger. I went with a 40 HP because I knew exactly what I wanted, and much of that was based on a 19 foot boat that I had owned several years before which had an identical 40 HP Tohatsu. With a 40 HP the boat really bogged down with four people aboard. It would not be satisfactory for most people who want one of these particular skiffs. Great for me because that's what I wanted - not good for most.

In the first book, page 13, "Power Needs" Renn covered the engine HP needs in two paragraphs better than I've seen anyone else do it, and with good examples. The last sentence: When you choose your power, the question you should ask yourself is how much weight you plan to carry most of the time."

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 on: July 16, 2014, 12:46:13 AM 
Started by Tebubaga - Last post by Tebubaga
So I heard a not so funny story last week.

Some folks with a large boat running out of Whittier got 130 miles out and lost their main. No sweat right? They've got a kicker.

Got them 35 miles before that crapped out. Another boat towed them five miles but was going somewhere else.

The Coast Guard towed them the 90 miles back from there.

Ouch.

 94 
 on: July 15, 2014, 09:10:30 PM 
Started by Kiwi Jon - Last post by Kiwi Jon
Cheers guys.
Yes of course it would have been sensible to give a little more info.
I am looking at a 12 gallon tote tank under the center console with a spare 6 gallon one forward of the console, would love to have had purpose built underfloor but that will have to wait till next year.
As for water skiing, love the idea but never thought of the Toleman as that kind of performance boat.

 95 
 on: July 15, 2014, 08:54:07 PM 
Started by Kiwi Jon - Last post by peterl
Here's my data:

I built a fairly standard WB at 21'6" with a center thwart and side console. I have two build-in poly fuel tanks (totaling 40 gallons) and 1/2 flooring per the book (but glassed both sides). All glass layups are per the book. All the structural wood is LVL instead of dimensional lumber. I run a 85HP two stroke Yamaha and there is also an 8 hp four stroke on the transom. With a 1/4 load of fuel, two adults, and all our gear the boat does 24 MPH at 3500 RPM and 34 MPH at WOT in optimal conditions. It really jumps on a plane. I'm confident the boat would perform adequately with a 70 as configured but I am thrilled with the performance with an 85.

Peter

 96 
 on: July 15, 2014, 06:57:42 PM 
Started by Dave - Last post by JMB
Our thoughts and prayers are with Renn and his family.

I only sent 1 email to Renn during my Standard build.  He replied very promptly.  He advised me to 'jam some 2x4s  against the rafters and a part of my boat which needed an assist.'

It is the same advice, which is given in another boat building book...........'jam some 2x4s against the rafters' and a part of the boat which needed an assist.'

His advice was given and has been copied by others.  I am sure his advice was given first and other book writers 'copied'!

Thank you Renn for being our inspiration. 

JMB


 97 
 on: July 15, 2014, 06:48:20 PM 
Started by Dshoe - Last post by tolman_paul
My boat has a couple of those character marks.

 98 
 on: July 15, 2014, 06:45:52 PM 
Started by Kiwi Jon - Last post by tolman_paul
How much weight are you going to carry, what are your typical water conditions and how fast do you want to go?

Unless you're building it as a light open skiff, I think the widebody is at it's best with over 100 hp.  The only caveat is those 4s engines are heavy for the hull. 

 99 
 on: July 15, 2014, 06:32:50 PM 
Started by Kiwi Jon - Last post by David Nolan
Dave wright had no issues w an 18 standard and a 40 hp


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 100 
 on: July 15, 2014, 06:32:16 PM 
Started by Kiwi Jon - Last post by David Nolan
70 will work fine jon.  But really to answer this, you need to say what you are carrying in fuel people and gear, and how fast you like to go or can go in your area.   If pulling skiers, id go the 90


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