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General Discussion Tolman Skiffs / Re: Integrated Composite fuel tanks
« Last post by Cannon on February 22, 2017, 10:20:50 AM »
Initially, I looked at all of the angles to build as inexpensively as possible. When it came down to making a decision, I opted for a custom aluminum tank, for a number of reasons; resale and insurance: the wood/glass built in tank won't pass the USCG regulations. It may work great, but if it won't pass the appraisal, you can't get more than basic insurance.  It would be a real PITA to replace should it go south. I also wanted as large a tank as feasible for long trips, so the custom aluminum fit the bill. Larger than plastic and built to fit my hull. It also came with the appropriate inspection sticker for down the road when 10 footitus strikes and I choose to sell her.
I also considered making my potable water tank, but in the end just purchased one from Greatlakes Skipper, although, I still may may build a slightly larger water tank out of ply and epoxy.
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General Discussion Tolman Skiffs / Re: Integrated Composite fuel tanks
« Last post by BobC on February 22, 2017, 07:48:12 AM »
I posted this same question on the THT composites thread to get some additional feedback.  Many folks there seem to think there are some legality issues with the idea according to USCG regs.  Apparently diesel tanks are allowed to be integral but gas are not?  My personal reading of the law, and looking at the picture in the publication leads me to think it does not apply to outboard powered boats but I'm not a lawyer. I guess I will scratch the idea for now although I think if somebody was looking for the quickest, cheapest way to get on the water and start fishing it might be worth a go.  Could always install a proper tank later if you were going to sell or get it surveyed?

Thanks to those who responded. Some good thoughts.
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General Discussion Tolman Skiffs / Re: Integrated Composite fuel tanks
« Last post by luk diver on February 21, 2017, 05:34:13 PM »
 Went a plastic tank off eBay for 2003 build. ZERO problems since then..... B & B
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General Discussion Tolman Skiffs / Re: Transom question
« Last post by luk diver on February 21, 2017, 05:25:27 PM »
 As per Renn's recommendation in 2003 build we went 2 x 10 versalam on transom. Had issues with our previous boat a 22' aluim. Bayrunner when mounting o/b on alum. setback. A beefee transom isn't a problem we wanted to revisit. Might have something to do with us using a steel davit on o/b splashwell to snatch #1000 weight but overbuilt isn't something that keeps you awake at night. IMO. B & B
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General Discussion Tolman Skiffs / Re: Transom question
« Last post by elkhunter338 on February 21, 2017, 04:56:31 PM »
I really liked the thicker transom also for attaching the sides and bottom, even on the very bottom of the transom where mine stepped down from 2" to 1" I glued another 1/2 strip along this edge to get 1.5" thick. 
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General Discussion Tolman Skiffs / Re: Integrated Composite fuel tanks
« Last post by Oyster on February 21, 2017, 04:12:49 PM »
As it relates to fuel tanks, currently with the new EPA regulations, you may want to consider a certified tank these days, even though most of these boats are homebuilt. This may come into play if you get a survey and or for a new owner if you put the boat up for sale.
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General Discussion Tolman Skiffs / Re: Southern Maryland Jumbo Build
« Last post by cj8mule on February 21, 2017, 02:39:22 PM »
Sweet!  really starts to pop when you put some paint on it.  I'm leaning towards a sonic blue or teal blue for sides with a creme colored deck/topsides.  Still haven't decided.  What brand paint did you go with?

Hey Bob!  I used a really thick high build exterior primer from Home Depot and Behr exterior acrylic latex.  I didn't need the primer except to fill some divets and scratches.  You can paint the latex straight to the epoxy.
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General Discussion Tolman Skiffs / Re: Integrated Composite fuel tanks
« Last post by JoeEvens on February 21, 2017, 01:42:23 PM »
 The technology is in place and has been for decades. Amateur built aircraft aircraft with composite/epoxy tankage are regularly issued airworthiness certificate, insured, and flown all over the planet.

A search of NTSB records will show that there have been plenty of problems, but aircraft have a big variable that boats do not.

Properly done, with the right products, there is no logical reason not to consider composite, built in tanks. If problems do occur, they should be reasonable to manage on a boat. With attention to detail and the right materials there should be no problems.

No need to reinvent this wheel, all the groundwork and testing has been done and thoroughly documented.  I know friends that have been running the epoxy/glass fuel tanks in their Rutan aircraft tor 30+ years. Around the world flights in a Long EZ are almost routine. Examples abound.



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General Discussion Tolman Skiffs / Re: Southern Maryland Jumbo Build
« Last post by BobC on February 21, 2017, 01:33:36 PM »
Sweet!  really starts to pop when you put some paint on it.  I'm leaning towards a sonic blue or teal blue for sides with a creme colored deck/topsides.  Still haven't decided.  What brand paint did you go with?
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General Discussion Tolman Skiffs / Re: Southern Maryland Jumbo Build
« Last post by cj8mule on February 21, 2017, 01:11:16 PM »
A little bit of paint.  The color is called praying mantis and doesn't show up well in the picture...  it's actually a green.

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