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 on: March 27, 2015, 02:02:06 PM 
Started by elkhunter338 - Last post by BobC
Nice idea, how much structural  rigidity would be lost if it was just screwed vs glued?  Would you do it all as one big peice or as  several smaller sections?  What if you set some stainless T-nuts in tabs at several points under the deck and then bolted the deck down with some bolts?  Would make access a piece of cake.  wouldn;t need to worrry about stripping out/breaking off a screw, leaks into wood around screws etc.  Could still fill and seal around the bolts with sikaflex if they were recessed a little and washers used and the edge grain coule be sealed up with epoxy where the bolts pass thru the deck.

 on: March 27, 2015, 01:47:51 PM 
Started by BobC - Last post by BobC
Here's a couple more drawings.  How I think it could be constructed in sections and another variation on the cabin.  This could also be made as  a removable soft top or bimini style express model.

 on: March 27, 2015, 01:30:27 PM 
Started by Dave B - Last post by Dave B

How big is that skiff?   Paul has a 115 etec and goes (pretty fast) _____ nmph.

Im guessing 40 KTS easy and 43-44 mph

thats my guess anyway

It's the Widebody 21. I'm pretty sure that it will very seldom get up to max speed. That's faster then I'd generally want or need to go on the waters she'll see.

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 on: March 27, 2015, 01:27:43 PM 
Started by Dave B - Last post by Dave B

Nice work on the console!  You are going to have a fantastic boat when it's done.  Be sure to post a video on YouTube of the maiden voyage.

I'd recommend interfacing that E-TEC via NMEA 2000 network to the Garmin, see

You'll get all of the engine parameters, like fuel flow, MPG, GPH, engine hours, temperatures, and others.  

For water pressure display on the Garmin, get BRP Water Pressure Sensor Kit, P/N 5008640, for 2012 and newer Evinrude
E-TEC 115 – 300 HP outboards. The water pressure sensor used in this kit provides water pressure readings from 0 to 50 psi (0 to 344 kPA).  If you add water pressure, you or the dealer will have to turn on water pressure input on the Evinrude Diagnostcs.

Run XD 100 oil for best performance!

Hi Paul,

Yes, definitely installing a NEMA 2000 backbone and it will link with both the Garmin and the 2 ICON gauges. Those gauges will also tell me all kinds of things.

I had thought about the water pressure kit but in talking it over with the dealer, didn't think it was necessary. Was I wrong?

And yes, I had planned on running the XD 100 oil. I noticed that the engine came from the factory with it already set for it.

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 on: March 27, 2015, 01:19:53 PM 
Started by gdwamsley - Last post by gdwamsley
I did not sand.  I hope I didn't cause myself a problem.  The majority of the inside had the nice textured surface of non weave filled glass.  There was a small area on what will be the port side where I had some extra epoxy so I laid it on there.  That is the shiny area in the picture.  I didn't want to sand anywhere else because I figured I would be sanding glass and losing strength since I didn't fill the weave.  I also was assuming the textured surface would hold the adhesive well.

Advice here accepted and appreciated even if negative. I would rather reconcile things now. 

Dave N,

I hear you on other important things.  I have a 6 yr old daughter and a son that just turned 1.  I get to pick him up tonight and have a daddy son evening as my wife and daughter have some plans tonight.  I am also lucky enough that my daughter loves being on a boat.  Reminds me of me when I was her age.

Life is an adventure and I am having fun sharing with you all. Cool

 on: March 27, 2015, 12:39:30 PM 
Started by Olpard - Last post by jerry bark
Hmmm. . .

Let us step outside of the box a minute here. . .

Since this will be an open boat why not make the crash locker lower than usual but otherwise build to the plan. Then once things are pretty well done (here is where we go outside the box:) cut a hole to the left of the bowstem wide enough to mount the trolling motor. Then you can simply deploy the trolling motor through the hole and retrieve it as needed.

I think this would work fine provided that you do not get TOO LONG of a shaft.

I had an aluminum boat with a bow mount trolling motor for a long time. I had it set so that the trolling motor "head" was barely above the mounting bracket when deployed. I think it would have worked fine as I am describing.

If you currently have a bow mount trolling motor why don't you do a bit of a mock up of the sides of a skiff up near the bow and test the idea out? you could cut some cardboard to the proper angle (one of these jumbo owners will measure the angle of the side relative to the deck for you I am sure) and then play around. I think it will work.

Then If you no longer need the trolling motor you can cover the hole.

All that said, I do not think that replacing a bass boat with an open jumbo is something that I would do IF I were serious about BASS fishing. Now if you want to use this set up for walleye fishing on lake erie I think it would work out well.

What are your fishing plans?


 on: March 27, 2015, 12:39:17 PM 
Started by gdwamsley - Last post by David Nolan
Im with Mr Fithian on the PL although it does glue up wood to wood much better, but you will fillet and tape the stringers and they you wont ever need to worry.   Good progress.   Really good start.   Dont burn out.  Dont forget the other things that need tending...

 on: March 27, 2015, 12:19:19 PM 
Started by Dave B - Last post by David Nolan
How big is that skiff?   Paul has a 115 etec and goes (pretty fast) _____ nmph.

Im guessing 40 KTS easy and 43-44 mph

thats my guess anyway

 on: March 27, 2015, 12:15:11 PM 
Started by BobC - Last post by pfithian
I don't believe the forward slope windshield has any negative effect on resale.  I think it is just a matter of time before you start to see this on more recreational vessels on the East Coast.  One of the big reasons boats continue to be built that way is because the molds have to have "draft" in them to get the parts out.  It would take a lot more work to finish the outside surface with a forward slope, as the gel coat would be applied to the inside surface, and the outside surface would have to be faired and sanded, then gel coated.

Virtually all of the small Coast Guard boats now have them, and most all larger commercial vessels have them.  Most of the charter boats in Destin, FL have been modified to a forward sloping windshield, a lot of these boats are decades old.

After using ours for the past 4 years, I'd never build a cabin windshield with a rear sloping windshield.  There is no glare at all at night, the rain drops are forced down with gravity plus wind, and there is much more room in the cabin.  And it looks a bit mean, all business!

If I were to do another build, I'd put a slight angle on the side windows as well, wider at the top than the bottom.

Keep the sketches coming, this is becoming a good dialogue.

 on: March 27, 2015, 12:02:17 PM 
Started by BobC - Last post by David Nolan
Hi bob Very well said.   I wasnt trying to imply that you were making an Envi boat, i was trying to get the style down.   I wont comment any more on this thread but will be watching it.

You will like riding in the Tolman skiff no matter what you but on it above the waterline.

Im going to delete my other comments as I dont want to ruin your good thread.


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