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 51 
 on: July 22, 2014, 03:54:26 PM 
Started by Randy Zimmerman - Last post by Randy Zimmerman
Peter,

 I have the tank sitting on some 1/8" neoprene and the top of it is just under the top of the stringers. The deck sits nearly flush with the fill area that is raised about 1/2" at the back of the tank. I think you would need to raise your stringers at least 6" IOT accommodate the fittings and a bend in the hose. In my opinion that's not practical. I do like that there is easy access to the fittings but wish that the tank was more forward. I'm keeping my fingers crossed on the overall trim Smiley


There was a really good thread on the forum about widebody fuel tanks called "Trouble finding a fuel tank". Here is an extract from that thread:

here is another option, I use two of these tanks, but you could use three of them mounted between the stringers under your console. I believe they would fit crosswise between the stringers at 23" long:

Moeller PBW 12 Gal. Above Deck Fuel Tank, #630012LP

Stock# 1582169
Portable boat fuel tanks are manufactured from a sturdy re-formulated high-density polyethylene that is designed for use in harsh marine environments.  Meets 2011 U.S. EPA/CARB Regulations
Size: 22.9" L x 14" W x 14" H w/Cap

this would give you 36 gallons capacity in three separate tanks that could be connected by a selector valve, or just change the connector to the next tank when its getting low as I do. I put two under the forward seat of my console.

another moeller tank that might work out:
   25 gallon capacity "belly" tank but it would have forward fill and take out, the dimensions would work well.

Product # 032525
Product Dimension: 47.00L x 18.03W x 7.50H

with this tank you could mount it under the console as you mentioned ( I agree with your thoughts on trim BTW, based on how my boat behaves), then raise the deck 2-2.5 inches in front of the console to allow running the fill to the gunwale. then you can taper the deck back to the stringer tops along side of the console. I think this would actually work really well. I raised my deck at the forward locker bulkhead and did a taper back to the stringer tops in the first 36 inches or so and it's no big deal and does not feel awkward at all. Might be the best solution. You could throw in a bulkhead just in front of the tank and add a deck hatch to provide a big old storage locker under the forward deck. I have been debating adding such a locker to my widebody.

Good luck,
Jerry

 Jerry has a widebody and I'd call him a "senior" member with a lot of expertise. In hind sight, I wish this was posted before purchasing my current tank. I would have probably bought the 25 Gal tank option and raised my deck a few inches. That would have probably been a good tradeoff IOT move the tank forward a bit. Mine sits 20" fwd of the transom.

 I'm currently traveling for work but I'll measure the height of the fuel fill and post it when I get back later this week.

Randy

 52 
 on: July 22, 2014, 03:03:42 PM 
Started by Kiwi Jon - Last post by steveoh
I agree Dave. I'd love to have a page up for every Tolman project. Alas, there have been more than a few sites that have come and gone. I've been lucky on a few of them to be able to scrape the images off theWayBackMachine.

I'm working on a modern redesign of those old static pages. I think there are some that got lost in the site, but still exist on my server.

Steve

Agree about the main spray rails being a Tolman trademark, I like them and I put them on. But the boat looks juysdt fine without them see photos of Doug Buescher's Widebody below. Also like to remind folks that Fishy Fish is a great spot to place at least a few pictures oif your boat. Send them to SteveOh. The way it stands now I figure half of the known builds, if not more, are scattered all over the place and cumbersome to find on the web. Please put some on Fishy, I love to look at them.

Tolman without main spray rails:

http://www.fishyfish.com/dougbuescher/img/Buescher-8.jpg


 53 
 on: July 22, 2014, 01:26:10 PM 
Started by jim shula - Last post by AKExplore
Quote
Nice wiring job Dave!  Rod

Ditto.  Your future electrical mantenance work will be so much easier due to your initial efforts.

Doug

 54 
 on: July 22, 2014, 01:09:56 PM 
Started by jim shula - Last post by penguin
Nice wiring job Dave!  Rod

 55 
 on: July 22, 2014, 12:58:29 PM 
Started by Kiwi Jon - Last post by Dave Wright
Agree about the main spray rails being a Tolman trademark, I like them and I put them on. But the boat looks juysdt fine without them see photos of Doug Buescher's Widebody below. Also like to remind folks that Fishy Fish is a great spot to place at least a few pictures oif your boat. Send them to SteveOh. The way it stands now I figure half of the known builds, if not more, are scattered all over the place and cumbersome to find on the web. Please put some on Fishy, I love to look at them.

Tolman without main spray rails:

http://www.fishyfish.com/dougbuescher/img/Buescher-8.jpg

 56 
 on: July 22, 2014, 12:15:44 PM 
Started by jim shula - Last post by Dave
Jim,

I agree with Jerry that the bus will help with future expansion.  I used a Dual Bus Plus and ended up adding a second negative bus bar. 

Dave in Homer.

 57 
 on: July 22, 2014, 06:53:30 AM 
Started by Kiwi Jon - Last post by David Nolan
My bottom strakes were UHMW.  Incredibly tough, but not stiff.  I dont think stiffening the bottom was the original intent of Renn.  I think it was for laying the hull out when the tide goes out for protection.    I dont have the water spray rails so cant comment on if they help.  Guys say they make a world of difference.   But when we do get a lot of spray, we were behind the hardtop window anyway.  Now, we are in a house and even in conditions of tons of spray, which we had twice coming into 15 plus steady wind for 56 miles and 52 miles, we were mostly dry in the house and just pulled the plug and let tons of water go out.  Id have hated to have a pump going those two days... it was hundreds of gallons im sure...

The side strakes i think add a lot of stiffness.  And, I think they are sort of like a Tolman Trademark and all skiffs should have them.

I also think any reasonable two layers of any type of wood would do the trick.   Anything will work.  It gets epoxied.  I used found lumber and just pulled all the old rusty nails out and glued them on...




 58 
 on: July 22, 2014, 06:11:16 AM 
Started by jim shula - Last post by jerry bark
I am just thinking out loud here Jim,

if 10 ga wire is sufficient for use on the panel, you must be making on heck of a long run to require a 4 ga feed. maybe you can downsize the feed?

Beyond that a small bus bar and two lug ends should do the job nicely for less than $10. this will also give you some flexibility for future expansion.

cheers,
Jerry

 59 
 on: July 22, 2014, 12:50:11 AM 
Started by Randy Zimmerman - Last post by narvik
Hei Randy,
very nice build.
I am looking at the same tank, here in Europe it is sold as a 110 liter version with a different number. But it seems to be the same product. My dealer gave me drawings and it I had some hopes to mount the tanks under deck. Everything flush. Your pictures show, that the fuel filling tube will stick up quite a bit.
Did you mount your tank as low as possible? Or did you want easy access to all your couplings by mounting the tank higher? Could you please check if my idea could work in a wide body. I could raise the stringers a bit, but I would like to keep that to a minimum. How easy will the fuel line flex?

Thank you for any help,
Peter

 60 
 on: July 22, 2014, 12:38:15 AM 
Started by Kiwi Jon - Last post by Kiwi Jon
No that was really useful information, and I can see how the strakes would dig in, a bit like a scrambler bike through mud.
I think the bottom line on this forum is there is no such thing as to much information so thanx matey.

Kind regards

Jon


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