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General Discussion Tolman Skiffs / Re: Widebody shaft length
« Last post by Sean V18 on September 20, 2017, 12:32:24 PM »
Im not 100% set on any brand at this point. I have just heard good things about the Yamaha. SO it sounds like 20'' is pretty much the standard? The 25'' is 9#s heavier.
I said something the other day about crabbing sideways out a 40' wide no wake zone with a crosswind.  Mostly, it's gonna be me getting used to a bigger boat.  My 22' aluminum cabin boat would do the same thing only worse because it is an stern drive.  Try to maneuver a stern drive cabin boat with crosswinds in tight corners and you'll become a good pilot.  lol

I agree about practice makes perfect.  I usually dock very slowly and use the wind to my advantage. 

General Discussion Tolman Skiffs / Re: Widebody shaft length
« Last post by Lyle on September 20, 2017, 11:38:16 AM »
I suggest that you cut it 26" from the keel to the top edge.  This will get the motor A/V plate out of the water on plane.

Lyle's experience is that you'll never have water go over it at 20", but his picture also shows a lot of room to go up.  Why not?

On a 25" shaft setup, the entire lower unit can be tilted out of the water.  Sometimes not with a 20" shaft.

 Your reply got me thinking on a 25"/20" ability to completely tilt  clear of water. Understand it's mounted 5" higher, but the leg is also 5" longer. Most outboards don't seem to tilt completely parallel to the waterline, so what makes the 25" always clear? I'm guessing as long as it's more than 45 degrees tilt net, you would clear??Transom angle would certainly have an effect as well as each manufacturers range of tilt.

20" pic below, high and dry. 12 degree transom helps, as well as 269lb eng weight.

General Discussion Tolman Skiffs / Re: Widebody shaft length
« Last post by Lyle on September 20, 2017, 11:21:30 AM »
Figuring out the transom cut now.

What length are the majority of wide body owners running and why ??????????

I did not answer the why part.

 For me, I found a 0 hour Yam 90 hp/ 20"shaft  for $ 4400 at a local dealer. Both Tolman books called for a 20" . Price and plans decided it.
 Are you set on buying a specific brand motor? New/used/ existing?
 Sounds like you should setup for the 25". If for some reason a 20" motor ends up being the one, it's an easy mod to cut transom deeper.
Tolman Skiff Adventures / Re: Had a rough one this weekend
« Last post by AlasKen on September 20, 2017, 09:01:24 AM »
It does suck when mechanicals happen.  I lost a weekend with a rented cabin because of a blown sparkplug that required shop work.  Just packed it in and went home.  Nice that you could salvage the trip.  I have slept in the boat on the trailer a time or 2.  Parking lot says not to but I can't read.  I know several that do so as well and no one said a thing.  We also have a friend with some land rented near the water that we camp on with the boat on the trailer with family and friends, it makes a pretty good travel trailer.  Glad you were able to get it fixed and back on the water. 
My first welded aluminum boat had a pump. It was like herding chickens, because you had to be under substantial power to maneuver. I swapped out the pump for a traditional bottom end and was rewarded with much better maneuvering. It can get difficult maneuvering in cross winds with the GA, but with practice it really isn't that bad, especially when compared to a sled with a pump, which is something I don't miss at all. Every time I have to maneuver in the cross wind, it makes me nervous, but it is nothing like the stress of a sled. Also, the more I do it, the better I get at it. Practice makes perfect!

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General Discussion Tolman Skiffs / Re: irma
« Last post by gdwamsley on September 20, 2017, 03:10:46 AM »
True there and accomplished with a battery powered drill.  I hope things go well.

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General Discussion Tolman Skiffs / Re: Jumbo in VT (by elephant bites)
« Last post by gdwamsley on September 20, 2017, 03:04:00 AM »
Your boat looks great.  Someday I would like to build a jumbo.

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Well a large part of your previous problems stemmed from the jet propulsion. So you are probably spooked a bit more than you should be.  While there are numerous new custom builds in particular installing the bow thrusters, and some even installing them in bracketed boats in the brackets at the transom, you may encounter a problem getting the thruster in the water enough in the bow with the draft being somewhat less than the norm for the added feature.  I think its a matter of getting used to the handling . Practice makes perfect or at least time on the water will reduce your fears while building your confidence in your boat handling abilities. Build and enjoy.
I now have been inside a GA and next to tolman skiff.
  Observation- both were being blown around a bit more than adjacent boats.
  Many complaints about the difficulty in maneuvering tight quarters with wind.  I am a bit concerned about this issue since we are staring down the barrel of a 28' GA build in just a couple short months.  I have been fighting a 21 flat bottom boat with a 200hp sportjet for years.   It sucks in the wind, and a large part in the decision to go prop.  Well, that and many other reasons.   
   Has anyone actually tried to fit commercially available bow or stern thrusters to hull of any of the aforementioned boats.  I know they are expensive.  I don't want anyone bumping into me and I certainly don't want to ping pong off anyone else.  I searched the forums and did not see that anyone had fit them to thier boat. 
  Anyone here use them on anything? Ever?
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