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 21 
 on: August 28, 2014, 06:36:21 PM 
Started by Coldwater - Last post by AlasKen
I guess you guys have given up on placing weight in the bow? Grin


http://curezone.com/upload/_C_Forums/Conspiracy/10376Bikini_Shot_2_.jpg

Now that is definitely a viable solution to a stern heavy boat.

 22 
 on: August 28, 2014, 06:32:09 PM 
Started by steveoh - Last post by AlasKen
Welcome aboard and very nice job with your Tolman.  There were definitely some nice features on the deck and in the cabin.  I like your dinette solution using the side of the cabin and a ceiling support.  I may try and utilize that when I redo my cabin after I retire and spend more extended time on the boat.  Is the Homer boat set up similar or does it have a different layout?  And last question for now, do you have a covered anchor rode area or is it open as in Renn's book.  I couldn't tell in the photo's.  Good luck on the sell of your Jumbo.   

 23 
 on: August 28, 2014, 05:25:54 PM 
Started by Coldwater - Last post by tananaBrian

Too bad fishing boats work like bikini repellent... sigh  Sad

 24 
 on: August 28, 2014, 04:20:33 PM 
Started by steveoh - Last post by costas12
Hi all,
I was supprised to see refrence made to this site regarding my 24' Tolman, RIP Renn, that I've listed on craigslist. My son,Kyle, and I built two of these the winter of 2009 in Winthrop Wa.In the spring I brought mine to Tacoma where I live to rig, wire and outfit while Kyle trailered the other one to Homer, it is a friends boat, Andy, and he was a customer who has a summer place in Homer. I usto live in Homer which is of course where I met Renn and Kyle lives there in the summer and winters in Winthrop.
Kyle is a great craftsman who can think a project through beforehand then is a real whirlwind when he's unleashed. Although I invested a substantial amount of time in the build process my greatest undertaking was figureing out what systems and components I wanted to use and where to put them,like the three 35 gal. fuel tanks in the cabin and that's where Kyles genius took over as far as incorporating them into cabitenery.
I saw mention of a non draining deck problem which was also of a concern to me during our build so I chose to raise and camber the foward portion of the deck at the bulkhead by 2" and reverse camber and raise the aft end of the deck at the transom by 1 1/2" and install the flapper valves from skiff kits in the channeling that Kyle created around the deck hatches and through transom but that didn't quite work out and was never very happy with it so this spring i plugged up the transom and just use a sump box as a pumpout for bilge pump
Thanks for keeping Renn's legend alive
Paul Lints

 25 
 on: August 28, 2014, 01:36:14 PM 
Started by Coldwater - Last post by captainfogfish
No comment >Smiley


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 26 
 on: August 28, 2014, 01:09:29 PM 
Started by Coldwater - Last post by fjolsen
I guess you guys have given up on placing weight in the bow? Grin


http://curezone.com/upload/_C_Forums/Conspiracy/10376Bikini_Shot_2_.jpg

I don't think any of those girls are too heavy in the stern! Shocked

 27 
 on: August 28, 2014, 01:06:20 PM 
Started by Coldwater - Last post by tananaBrian
I guess you guys have given up on placing weight in the bow? Grin


http://curezone.com/upload/_C_Forums/Conspiracy/10376Bikini_Shot_2_.jpg

Well.... on SECOND thought...  Roll Eyes Grin

 28 
 on: August 28, 2014, 12:29:38 PM 
Started by Coldwater - Last post by Dave Wright
I guess you guys have given up on placing weight in the bow? Grin


http://curezone.com/upload/_C_Forums/Conspiracy/10376Bikini_Shot_2_.jpg

 29 
 on: August 28, 2014, 11:57:59 AM 
Started by cgrfish - Last post by tolman_paul
The thing to consider before choosing the method to apply the paint, is to what level did you prep the surface?  If you perfectly filled and block sanded everything and sanded down to 200 gr, then primed, then sanded again and so forth then you'll have the base for a show car finish.  But if you have more of a work boat prep, all the big stuff faired as best as possible, but some sratches from sanding and maybe some of the glass texture printing through, you'd be wasting your time trying to perfect the paint application as a nice shiny paint job will just show off the imperfections in your prep work.

I tried an HVLP with a undersized compressor and killed the compressor with less than a gallon of paint through it.  Then I resorted to rolling and tipping.  Personally I can't tell a difference between sprayed and rolled as my prep work was to work boat standard.

 30 
 on: August 28, 2014, 11:27:27 AM 
Started by Coldwater - Last post by tananaBrian

Dave ...Yes.  I would say that with the kicker on the boat, that you are right at the bitter end of the limit.  The batteries, in all practicality, add to the stern weight - batteries, brackets, and motors add up to around 900#, right?  Can't remember without looking, but I may have suggested amidships battery mounting?  Old fuzzy memories... but the boat is handling it fine from what I can see.

The only real issue with being stern a little low is that, when at rest or drifting, waves can come in over the stern ...which makes the stern heavier and more likely to take on another wave ...and so it does ...and next thing you know, you've turned turtle and your EPIRB is going off.  The GA, however, is plenty deep and can handle a bit of stern low trim without problem and it should buoy itself up and over waves coming in towards the stern.  You'll see that when you are out and using it, and if you haven't already, you soon will.  A little low in the stern is better than stern-high (bow-low) since it naturally assists going on plane, and it lets snow and rain flush out the back, even at the dock.  A low bow cause inboard water to flow towards the bow and make the boat heavier until it sinks, and also encourages sluggish response (if heavy) or abrupt response (if light) when coming off one swell and driving into another, and it can make the boat 'bow steer' (resist your steering input and cause the stern to want to come around).  Soo... I would say that your boat, Dave, illustrates about what the boat's real maximum transom weight is (around 900#)... but I will leave the limits stated in the manual as they are, e.g. 725# right on the transom, and 680# on a 12" bracket - because your average boater will tend to make the stern heavier as he/she goes, not lighter.... boats gain weight in the stern over time, almost always.

Brian



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