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 on: October 28, 2014, 10:35:00 AM 
Started by Dshoe - Last post by Dave Wright

I like Dan's technique for a nice clean fillet.  I wonder why he does not need to precoat.  That dry wood looks like it would suck the epoxy right out of the mix and hed get a dry bond and weak bond?

Dave it looks to me like he's already epoxy coated his ply and probably very lightly sanded it.

Hey now that I have your attention, on your Jumbo side windows: For the aft non moveable lexan did you route a rabbet in the ply for the lexan, and simply hold the lexan in place with silicone as Renn suggests in the book? No screws?

Looks like you bought channel for the sliding lexan window. Which channel did you buy (plastic or aluminum, brand).

How did you secure the channel in place.


 on: October 28, 2014, 09:59:35 AM 
Started by Dshoe - Last post by David Nolan

I like Dan's technique for a nice clean fillet.  I wonder why he does not need to precoat.  That dry wood looks like it would suck the epoxy right out of the mix and hed get a dry bond and weak bond?

 on: October 28, 2014, 09:06:29 AM 
Started by Dshoe - Last post by David Nolan
$9 bucks a quart.   Read the description.  "finely cut sawdust"  ..   Thats from S3.  One of the most respected in the whole wood flour epoxy market.  Its the kind Emeril Lugazi uses in his fine cooking show.      But seriously, $9 a quart.   My Pepper Steak chinese food only costs $7.99 a quart.  WTF!   (Im not suggesting that you use chinese food in your epoxy fillet mix either but I bet dried white rice would work)

Maybe when I market my brand of dust, Ill designate all proceeds benefit Fishyfish and the Chester County Boy Scouts, Troop 143.

Maybe Ill even offer a value pack.   5 lbs of Premium hardwood North east wood flour, in a yogurt container, with 5 extra re-useable yogurt containers (compare to West marines plastic epoxy mixing containers that LOOK exactly like a yogurt container at $1.99 each), five Harbor Freight Premium chip 2 inch brushes (case of 24 for $4.99 on sale - compare to West premium 2 inch chip brush at $1.69 each), and 20 tongue depressor mixer sticks....   

 on: October 28, 2014, 08:54:20 AM 
Started by Dshoe - Last post by David Nolan
wow,  duckworks has decent prices.   I loved their marine poxy and thats the last two orders.  I think their supplier is in florida.

anyway take a look at this.  this looks like MY Md/PA scooped up giant wood saw stuff.  I only wish I had scooped up a whole pickup truck load.    Id put it in the yogurt containers and sell for $10 for 5 lbs.   Do you know how many yoguret containers you can get form one week at a 500 kid boy scout camp when they put it out at every meal???

Coming soon  "Nolan wood flour sales" lol

$20 for five lbs of wood flour.     lol

 on: October 28, 2014, 08:43:30 AM 
Started by Dshoe - Last post by David Nolan
Ditto what Mr Wright said.   Guys, you can take my advice or leave it.  It costs nothing.  I ripped up my deck off the widebody last winter.  to tell you the truth, it didnt matter what I used gluing it down, it was HARD taking it up.    Mostly I used wood flour or saw dust in the fillets.   the wood flour particles get soaked in epoxy and glue the peices up together.   Think about the bottom to stringer for instance.   Even if you had a dime fillet size, thats a lot of glue and wood making contact, both sides, of the stringer.   further, it allows the taping to go smoothly.   It all sets up really hard... the epoxy into the wood, then the peanut butter and then the glass in that.   Its exceedingly difficult to break that mixture and get it out and the wood comes out.  Its like Renn told me once, (and others) when i wanted to make the boat "stronger" on this piece or that. 

he said something like this "Sure you can make it stronger but for what?  we've already proved through destructive testing and use that the boat is plenty strong enough.  you'll be adding more materiel, weight, cost and time"...     

I would not use the plastic fibers in anything except maybe superficial dings that were going to be painted.   and then Id use quick fair anyway.

I did use some mini fibers and they make the goop just about unbreakable.  I also had some 1/4 glass chopped stuff and thats probably for 40 ft commercial workboats lol.   when I build again, Im using wood flour for most things as a combinatiuon of economy, strength, ease of working, etc.   I dotn like that silica because its so dangerous, and it floats in the air and and you cant see it.  Whe I did use it I always mized outside and it still scared me.     

In a repair, id rather grind out or sand epoxy with wood in it than with glass in it.

I like wood.   

I like cheap.

I like simple.

Probably the most damndest thing in terms of bruteness (My word) is the way Renn called for putting sand in a top coat of epoxy for surface protection.    I used sand in my gunnel sides.  beach sand right off the beach.  sprinkled in the final epoxy coat.     when it dried i wire brushed the looser stuff and then painted over it.   That proved to be the best wicked tough hardest coating ive ever seen.    now it does suck when you later have to do some mod for some reason and your saw blade is slicing into sand.... 

 on: October 28, 2014, 08:42:57 AM 
Started by Dave B - Last post by RLM
Does anyone know of source for polyethylene foam in Anchorage, AK. ?

 on: October 28, 2014, 06:25:01 AM 
Started by Dave B - Last post by captainfogfish
I get  mine from a local manufacturer of Refrigerated Trailers, there are always skip loads of off cuts. You got any guys like that in your neighbour hood

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 on: October 27, 2014, 10:33:09 PM 
Started by Dave B - Last post by Dave Wright
I decided that it wasn't worth my time searching for low priced polyethylene foam. I also decide that pool noodles might not be the most effective volume, and depending on what you pay for them, not necessarily best price. I'm going to buy low density foam from Box + Foam, 10100 SW Allen Blvd Beaverton Oregon. I'll just drive down and pick it up. I'm pretty sure I'll buy their bundle SKU PER242402L which consists of 15 pieces of foam, 24" X 24" X 2 " foam for $112.35. That will give me 10 cubic feet of genuine non absorbent polyethylene. I'll use it outboard of the stringers under the cockpit deck. Since the entire area under my deck is air space with access plates for ventilation/inspection, the foam is just icing on the cake, but 100 bucks of failsafe icing. I figure by showing up in person I might be able to swing a better deal if they have something else on hand that might be just as suitable.

 on: October 27, 2014, 09:43:28 PM 
Started by Dave B - Last post by cgrfish
Dave,  I cleaned out both the Corvallis and Junction City dollar stores when I bought my noodles.  They told me at the time that was all their inventory for the season, but I could order more on line and have them delivered to the store with free shipping.  I had nearly what I needed so I didn't pursue it, but you might check their website and see if any are available.  I think both the dollar store and dollar tree told me that.   Good luck!


 on: October 27, 2014, 05:56:45 PM 
Started by David Nolan - Last post by gdwamsley

I would love to be more than a tire kicker and take that widebody off your hands.  I fully intended to build a similar boat until I decided I could build the hull but wouldn't be able to afford a new motor.  I wound up shifting gears and cut out a transom, shelves, and stringers for a 20' standard intending to use an existing 40 horse I own until I could afford a motor upgrade.  Then you went and posted that you are selling your battle tested rig for about what it would cost me to build a standard hull. Seems like a no brainer to me.  I'm kinda surprised no one has jumped on it yet.

I will be selling off some things to try and come up with some cash in short order, which I will either use to fund my standard build or preferably pick up old blue.  I live a little over an hour from you up 272 and into Lancaster.

I don't think most of the other tire kickers realize the value of what you have there.  Here's hoping she don't sell until I can get to her.  If someone comes along good for you as you can move on to other things.


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